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Qualifying Exam Academic Integrity Chat

ME vs. MSE Requirements

October 22nd, 2024


ME and MSE graduate guidelines have different language about the qualifying exam.

ME Version: !Pasted image 20241021155046.png MSE Version: In the publicly available version of the MSE PhD guidelines, there is no mention of academic integrity on the Qualifying Exam.


One big question:

  • What is "specific technical points"?

Jon is preparing to take the qualifying exam. After submitting an abstract, Joe, another student in Jon's lab, gives Jon some ideas on the state of the art.

  • Is Joe's advice a breach of Academic Integrity?
  • Can Joe discuss ideas on other sections?
    • *Goals and Outcomes / Hypotheses... *
    • Research Approach ideas...
    • Broader Impacts...

Jon is taking is qualifying exam. Beth, a student in a different lab, reads Jon's proposal.

Beth is reminded of another paper that seems useful for Jon.

  • Can she tell Jon about the paper?

Jon is taking is qualifying exam. Beth, a student in a different lab, reads Jon's proposal.

Beth notices technical inaccuracies in Jon's writing.

  • Can she tell Jon about the errors?
  • Can she explain why she thinks Jon is incorrect?
  • What if she tells Jon about a different method to use?

Jon is preparing for his oral examination. He would like some presentation practice, so he presents to his lab mates.

  • What kind of questions can Jon's peers ask?
  • Can these peers tell Jon where he has gaps?

Now some other issues...


Knowing your committee:

What should the expectation be?

  • ME knew after the first week. Abstract acceptance was from committee.
  • MSE did not know their committee for weeks.

Hypothesis vs. Outcomes

  • MSE - need hypotheses in the proposal
  • ME - outcomes are sufficient

NSF GRFP Proposal style

  • Has happened in the past
  • Will this return?